this friday

dust's picture

so apparently friday is the day for sl. just saw this on twitter. thought someone might want to enter. it says win free mpb with sl for best full screen counter. think this is a job for quartz composer, not sure if this is a gimmick but aparently they want to be able to sync a countdown clock to 39 monitors. people are like how do you do full screen in html. anywho thought this might be cool for someone who is bored. im busy with my site right now. but i guess the count down continues.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.onemorething.nl/%3Fp%3Dshowarticle%26art_id%3D4424&ei=oqKUSsu1B8LalAf2y7SdDA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSnow%2BLeopard%2BCountdown%2BClock%2BContest%253B%2Bwin%2Been%2BMacBook%2BPro!%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us

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toneburst's picture
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Anyone pre-ordered yet? I put in my order this afternoon.

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cwright's picture
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No need for me to preorder -- I've got an apple store like 3 minutes away :)

dust's picture
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im excited. i think the computer store on campus offers a free upgrade to anyone that has bought a new mac in the last year. or at least they did that with leopard. i like having the disk. i keep it in my computer bag incase i mess up my computer,

my leopard disk has proved useful when in a bind. like an hour before a presentation my computer went down cause i was messing with some acl permissions once and a little permissions rebuild saved my day. really haven't had to use my file restore magic thumb drive yet. knock on wood.

toneburst's picture
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It's a bit further here. Plus I don't want to get trampled to death in the queue.

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leegrosbauer's picture
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Looking forward to going to the downtown Montreal store on Friday. It's about an hour each direction on public transportation. Flashing the box in the Metro oughta be a kick.

dust's picture
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the question for me is will there be a smooth 45min upgrade. i have found when doing migrations from time machine that it does not work to well when your current os is different than the migration os. plus i time machine my 250gb drive and that would take a long time for migration. maybe user info etc... i hear SL installs really fast on a clean system.

itsthejayj's picture
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any one have a guess at when our NDA expires. really looking forward to discussing QC 4, + the Alessandro hyperwall (mmm fluid patch)

toneburst's picture
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Friday?

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psonice's picture
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The NDA doesn't expire. You'll just have to watch the rest of us discuss it and keep your mouth shut. :D

toneburst's picture
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..and Apple now own your soul. Did you not read that bit?

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itsthejayj's picture
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I remember with the iphone sdk we couldn't talk about it for about 2 months AFTER its release!!

cwright's picture
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wow, this is starting to sound like iPhone development (where the SDK went public, and people still weren't allowed to discuss dev for a month or so...) :)

dimitri's picture
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Are we going to be happy? :) (is my question breaking the NDA?)

itsthejayj's picture
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as Alex mentioned the NDA is pretty soul destroying. How about turning this in to an tease thread... Chris any upcoming kineme re-release/release for snow?

cybero's picture
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Last time I did NDA , one got a free copy of the new operating system / applicationware - and the instruction to not discuss the OS until given clearance to do so.

gtoledo3's picture
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The new brain wave remote control is badass.

dust's picture
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so why does kineme not have an NDA ? how can we discuss beta technologies in a forum but not apple beta stuff. lol

"what happens in fight club stays in fight club" is what they say at my college. its like how can you teach a product you can't talk about.

i have signed nda's lots of time doing style for-casting and graphic stuff for companies. so it really is common business practice.

my question is does the nda effect you or not ? when you downloaded x code did installing and accepting the EULA count as a NDA ?

bottom line is probably if you want to work for apple or are indeed an apple developer with a marketed product then its best to go with the program.

i personally have accepted a few iphone agreements that i didn't read, and have plans of releasing a video game some day so don't know if im the best person to spill any info. i mean i all ready have a few times went in to to much detail. but hey the wait is almost over.

i to want to know about some kineme things.

dust's picture
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george i thought i would let you know about the new brainwave remote. 1 it is illegal to practice medicine without a licensee. hooking up an electrode to your brain is considered medicine. i do however think it is ok to practice on your self and others as long as you make them sign a release form stating they know you are not a doctor and give you consent. lol

my limited research into electroencephalography lead me to asking some doctors questions and honestly if your brain isn't wired right. like mine meaning i have adhd bipolar etc.. that there is a likely hood that if indeed you reversed the amps by accident you can easily zap neurons that you need.

if you are going to try this i suggest looking in binaural beats. using sine-waves and oscillators detuned by a specific hz can get you into a brain state just by listening. if you know the brain-state you are in then its much easier to get an accurate reading. that and make sure to hook up electrodes to your earlobes. they act as a kind of ground wire.

so look for the brainwave remote patch (micro-controller sold separately)

monobrau's picture
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No, but seriously, I'm connecting this http://www.brainclinics.com/brainquiry_pet through windows bioexplorer midi to quartz. I actually need such a thing. Send it over! ;-)

franz's picture
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ha ha ha ! ;)


btw, i just hope they'll release proper CL documentation with the boxed version.

gtoledo3's picture
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With that and the audio patches, you can do amazing stuff... I have this whole Ramones "Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment" audio/brain wave reactive thing. You FEEL like you're getting zapped to the beat! Rad. I like the qtz where you bend the spoon on the screen when you concentrate really hard. The OpenCL brain wave deforming capabilities are nice... I'm just not sure how to get it going with "The Clapper" patch, so that my lights turn on and off (?)

... and obviously, the ability to export qtz's to iPhone, Windows, Linux, Blackberry, pig latin AND cassette tape is amazing. The cassette tape thing was a surprise, but who am I to second guess?

cybero's picture
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dust wrote:

my question is does the nda effect you or not ? when you downloaded x code did installing and accepting the EULA count as a NDA ?

No.

Any publicly purchasable EULA or otherwise licensed software products, downloaded or off the shelf, carry no NDA implications whatsoever for the acquiring party.

usefuldesign.au's picture
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Well I'm in Australia so it is friday already and I'm stuck with a PPC – makes me wanna cry boo hoo.

cwright's picture
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gtoledo3 wrote:
... and obviously, the ability to export qtz's to iPhone, Windows, Linux, Blackberry, pig latin AND cassette tape is amazing. The cassette tape thing was a surprise, but who am I to second guess?

I think there's a private preferences setting to unlock exporting to Xbox, Wii, PS3, pachinko machine, toaster, and washing machine. It's a bit buggy from the tests I've run though ;)

dust's picture
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July 1, 1979 the world was introduced to the sony walk man. I can't believe the walk man is almost as old as I am. Where did it go ? What cool mod it would be to turn an old ipod into one of these. With the tiny ipod you could probably put it inside the walkman somewhere so the the tape would still turn. Maybe even link the play buttons ? I can imagine now wearing some reeboks sporting the neon fanny pack and rats tail all while jamming around campus with a giant a cassette walk man, seriously that would be funny to me. I actually collect analog stuff like that still don't use them much but i got a nice marantez field tape recorder with UV meter the other day and a pristine shiny gold 8 track boom box / suitcase. Its like you get on the bus with this suitcase pop the hinges let the cover drop and bam tadah mobile 8 track boom box all shiny and new. Don't ask why i bought it i don't even have any 8 tracks nor do i really listen music other than my but though it might be a cool gag for a halloween party or something.

All joking aside iphone, xbox, toaster, are all great ideas and are not completely out of the realm of reality. The washing machine is pushing it a bit though.

gtoledo3's picture
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I like that you still get aliasing when you port to Xbox and Wii! Weird!

gtoledo3's picture
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Well, looks like 10a432 actually IS the release version.

cwright's picture
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yeah, given vade's bug report on the list, I'm actually a bit ... unimpressed. :/ meh.

leegrosbauer's picture
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Since I've promoted it regularly in these forums; CamTwist isn't ready for Snow Leopard according to public announcements by the developer. He didn't give me an ETA. I'll be holding off on installing 10.6 because the app in question is heavily integrated with my usage of Quartz Composer. That said, I'm nonetheless purchasing 10.6 tonight, followed by a celebratory round of margaritas and dinner downtown.

SteveElbows's picture
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If you have another hard drive or can partition your existing one, you could always install snow leopard on a fresh partition and keep leopard running on the other one till all your apps are compatible.

gtoledo3's picture
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Yep. Sooo. (twiddling thumbs).

This is like the sweet and sour of Mac OS's :)

My subconscious has kept having this thought... "this release will be underwhelming to you", but I've tried to ignore it. It feels beta to me. The fact that it's still the same build is nice in some ways (no last minute major change), but then mildly disappointing as well. I think anyone seeing it the first time will be jazzed.

The panics and freezes just bum me out actually... I should have been reporting that stuff (I HAD sent the auto reports, but wasn't burning to go to the bug report page). I took it for granted that release was further off.

Shadows are awesome if tweaked (the default values almost always look ugly), but then Apple's FOV is basically deprecated since it doesn't work at all with the new Lighting/Shadow/DAE system. Sweet/Sour :)

What I'm curious about is the opinion of others when it comes to the editor. Is the light type on dark background something that others like? My eyes are fatiguing out with it.

leegrosbauer's picture
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Excellent! I'll hoist an additional margarita to that suggestion and maybe pick up an extra drive when I grab 10.6. Thanks!

gtoledo3's picture
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Ok, I'm taking two steps back. I'm absolutely thrilled, regardless of any other nit-picky stuff.

Option+preferences ....editor.... check mark - multisampling! (= AA FINALLY!) YAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

(ps. On supported GPU's).

gtoledo3's picture
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Oh, it's sooo handy Lee :) Go firewire if you can.

leegrosbauer's picture
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Vidvox Snow Leopard Upgrade Guide with links to latest VDMX beta, SoundFlower forum caution, Create Digital Music overviews and WikiDot app compatibility wiki:

http://www.vidvox.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3709

leegrosbauer's picture
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I busted my standard firewire input. Forced a plug in upside down a while back. Maybe that second firewire input will work? Converter or something? I'll inquire about it at the Apple Store tonight.

I'm really jazzed too, btw. Just cautious. :-)

gtoledo3's picture
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Works on the render patches but not on the shadows...Yaaayyyyy! Wait. Uhm. Kinda yay?

cwright's picture
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light text on dark background is naturally more tiring for some (I hear lots of complaints about it from the seeing-impaired). I'm personally not a big fan of it, but mostly for aesthetics.

I'm falling mostly on the sour side of the sweet/sour thing -- I agree that it feels beta (along with QuickTime). I was heartbroken when I heard that 10A432 was GM, since QC didn't feel usable at all (and the OpenCL freak-out stuff without a sane CPU fallback is absolutely ridiculous).

Were they trying to race against Windows7? I sincerely hope they didn't chop off a month of dev time for that...

sigh here's looking to 10.6.1! :)

gtoledo3's picture
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Yeah, that's what I meant by " I wish they hadn't spent so much time gilding the lilly", a couple weeks back. It's like... don't spend time on GUI if actual patches don't work or seem half implemented.

To me, the GUI isn't as good as the old. It "looks" more modern and like something a VJ guy would like (my abstract idea of glossy translucent dark stuff fitting people's new idea of "modern"). The black outline on the cables instead of the grey enhances the look of aliasing on the cables. Except most won't notice that, because they will keep the Editor opaque to keep it from looking like an acid flashback. Then, there's the fact that my eyes don't take it as well... I really didn't care about the look- that was subjective. It's the eye thing that I'm not looking forward to over the course of who knows how long...

Actually, one thing that is a real "suck" for me is that my mind is so keyed to the look of "blue does this", "pink does that". I think the colors changing so much is lame. There is a rhyme and reason, so that's good, but isn't doing anything helpful for workflow.

The problem with light on dark, is that the thing you need to focus on, the text, is at maximum brightness... and that's shining right into your iris, leaving a "burn".

Regarding GM... that's the same thought I had last night when I realized that 10A432 was the real deal.

cwright's picture
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my gripes with the UI are manifold -- the arbitrary color change without a hint of previous coloration makes all the millions of "red patch"/"pink patch" comments absolutely meaningless -- that's sure to help newbies. And fixating on terms like "Renderers" or "Consumers" is worthless if you don't know how QC works (everyone and their dog things QC is top-to bottom (data is pushed through), rather than bottom-up (data is pulled through, from the consumers/renderers/pink patches)). I don't look forward to explaining that (Especially reusing blue -- there were already blue patches, but they meant something else entirely .. blue is the new green, I guess?)

The search is "better", but also worse -- in Leopard, I can type "math exp" and get "Mathematical Expression" -- in SL, it does whole-word matching only, so typing "math exp" returns nothing (it's looking for "Mathe-"). Also, focus stays on the creator, so I can't create a trackball, do cmd-down to enter it, and the cmd-enter to key in new patches - I have to use the mouse now to refocus.

The template system is pretty, but broken - Leopard's was actually very dynamic, and it was possible to create your own templates (complete with custom icons!) and have them get listed automatically. Not so in Snow Leopard - they're statically assigned in a composition + xml file now.

I'll leave it at that for now (I really need to get coding on more crap...), but yeah, no yay from me yet :/

dust's picture
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if the last developer seed is the gm im screwed. not much works right. system preferences crashes every time. my user setting get nuked on a restart and my hard drive icon im so used to being on my desktop is gone. my tablet can't remember i want to scroll and not zoom but other than that its sweet very fast and there are all kinds of new developer examples on apples site in particular reference to open AL CL etc. I like the color changes the black and blue is nice to me, does not seem to bother my eyes but then again i haven't been able to work in snow for more than a few hours without a reboot, cause i need something in leopard. im defiantly not going to install the GM over leopard at least for a little while. I suppose I will join you all right now and reboot. hopefully i will have nicer things to say later maybe some source. im thinking i will just have a bug report though.

cybero's picture
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Well, when Snow Leopard arrives in the post I shall, having read with real interest the various postees' comments , in all probability, install it initially into a VM only state.

Better safe than sorry.

If anew distro is installed as an upgrade I tend to boot, run Maintenance and then reboot again.

Also, it really does behove us well, as end users to keep the bug report department at Apple fully informed of all within the OS that lacks finesse or sense.

Regards the GUI detractions reported within QC, we can , indeed must, I think, post these directly to the quartzcomposerdevlist.

It's that department's brief and bailiwick, after all.

Early-ish Snow Leopard 10.6.1 in the offing perhaps, eh?

gtoledo3's picture
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I would feel sooo nitpicky and luddite reporting the new editor like it's a bug (besides the psychedelia that I already wrote on-list about).

I always try to put myself in someone else's shoes, and if I had to do a GUI and came up with that, I would be proud, and whoever did work on it should be as well. I don't really know the reasons behind the change, and there could be some over-riding reason that I haven't thought of.

Who knows? Maybe the old Pixelshox look had to be nixed because of licensing, maybe it was a concerted effort to make it look more appealing to a wider market. I have no clue, and I know it must have taken hard work and personal investment to do it. In office politics, it can be AMAZING why certain things come to pass. I applaud all of the people at Apple who worked on this despite my tendency to nit-pick.

That said, one of my criteria for judging things is a subjective feeling of "do I think that everything is intentional and is there a reason behind it?". I think the idea was just to make the GUI "look cool" and make people have a fresh feeling. That was achieved... but I don't think that there was much thought on that beyond that kind of superficial layer. There is absolutely 0% bonus on that, and all negative... for me.

There's also a large contingency of people that like that kind of design style (light on dark), so I go "hmmm, this could be one of my 'helvetica rules/lucida sucks' kind of ideas that I seem to be in the minority on". I even like light on dark for many things... just not stuff I have to stare at for a long time.

.... I seem to remember that there's a command to invert monitor colors (haven't used it in ages, and can't remember it offhand). Maybe I'll use that more often (no joke!)

Maybe Kinemecore "classic QC editor" mode could be implemented :)

dust's picture
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its funny one of my friends inverted my screen a few years back and i freaked out and thought my computer was broken. i searched the web for inverted screen osx but couldn't find any answers. i don't go into universal access much, subsequently i re installed my computer and thought it was broke. i felt so dumb, i had been using macs since they came out and never thought there was an option for screen inversion. sometimes honestly if im tired been up to long but need ot finish something i will switch to black on white. i find it easier on your eyes then the white screen black text. when you where initially talking about eye fatigue i thought it was from to many hours on SL QC. my eyes hurt know cause while playing tennis the other day i left my glasses on the bench because they where fogged up and someone stole them a pair prescription ones to so im running my monitors at a low re so i can see right now. messing with SL right now actually have something really cool if mixing CA layers with GL context works i will have my first plugin. might need help later haven't built it yet but almost done. getting better with cocoa it reads really well im using the dot syntax cause all the brackets still mess with me.

leegrosbauer's picture
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Got the external drive. 10.6 was sold out with no estimated restock date. The sales people were crappy. They kept ignoring my requests for assistance in favor of other customers. Had to climb up onto a display table and refuse to get down until the guard brought me a salesman. They weren't all that busy either. Punks. ;-)

gtoledo3's picture
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Yeahhhh. I like having the stores, but they should have a better way to suss out who is actually there waiting first. I've had the same thing happen. It's usually kind of funny, because I always know exactly what it is that I want, and just want to go in and get out, but the sales people tend to home in on people that want to ask a bunch of questions.

I'll even be standing by whatever it is I need them to pull, or kind of hovering to try to get eye contact when they are done with the last customer, but then they turn the other way :) I actually do get a kick out of that. It's become part of the experience for me... like a kind of Murphy's Law!

I've had some particularly egregious Genius Bar/Warranty experience, but I've whined about that before. It has to be hard to get good help, in all seriousness.

Thankfully, most of the things are just out on the floor.

10.6 was actually sold out... and they had no estimated restock date or info to tell customers? Surprising.

dust's picture
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best buy has SL for 25 bucks

yanomano's picture
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About the new QC GUI : I was also afraid for my eyes when i discovered those new nodes and aliased connexions inside the editor of QC4. Anybody can confirm that the editor seems to need more resource to draw ? Those contrasted nodes (white text on black background) are very wounding for our eyes for sure.

I don't really understand the motivation to trash the very well thought colors and concept of the original design.... My opinion regarding this radical change in the look is because the leave of Pierre Olivier Latour from the team of Quartz Composer. So they probably decide to mark a transition in the software with a new UI design.

In the releaseNote.pdf you can read about the change :

"UI Update : The Quartz Composer graph user interface has been redesigned to make you smile."

Is it probably a bad joke because with one hour of work with it "it make your eyes cry" :( Of courseI i can reduce this update to just a bad UI because there are a lot of new admirables features.... But there are some reasons that stop "make me smile" with it.

cybero's picture
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Well, couldn't VM the OS X 10.6 disk.

So scratch that idea, apart from if you've got the server edition of OS X, I guess.

I must admit I am very impressed with how quickly the indexing worked immediately post installation.

More later, perhaps.

gtoledo3's picture
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You could always boot from an external... but it's probably not a bad idea to just make a couple/few partitions on your main drive either.

leegrosbauer's picture
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gtoledo3 wrote:
10.6 was actually sold out... and they had no estimated restock date or info to tell customers? Surprising.

There is backstory. I'm anglais. They're français. Did you know that it's illegal for a business here to only display it's name in english? Any other language is ok but english will get you a fat fine and a cease and desist order. Language police, eh? I'm guessing some people got ETA answers and others didn't. But I already faced them down on the lousy service issue, so I didn't want to push my luck. heh.

Anyway, I've learned that the CamTwist issues are seemingly minimal. Most parts work normally, apparently. Transitions were broken but have been fixed. I'll report when I become aware of an update.

dust's picture
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thats odd. in america we don't have a national language so you can use any sign you want, supposing the town you live in is tolerant. let me ask you this are your Chinese restaurant signs in french ? the american passport is in both english and french that is because they are the diplomatic languages and in all the port authorities in the world there has to be someone that can speak either of those two languages. but hey making laws like that is a real french thing to do anyways. my best friend is a Tunisian french guy by way of paris and when in canada he asks the french people to please speak english cause their french offends him. typical french vacationer can't say americans are any better on vacation in france or canada.

leegrosbauer's picture
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ah. More backstory and then we should probably drop it because it's way off topic. I just sort of went on a mini-rant because it felt good and because there was an opportunity.

Yes, it's odd. Bigtime. It's also blatantly discriminatory. Intentionally. Bottom line? It's a legally approved maneuver by the french speaking majority (perhaps 7 million individuals) in Quebec to prevent cultural absorption by the english speaking majority in Canada (perhaps 25 million). Simple as that. There are other interesting demographic comparisons that could be made, btw. Consider that there are currently about twice as many latino immigrants in the States (about 60 million) as there are people in all of Canada (about 33 million). That sort of makes the whole anglais/français conflict look like a bit of a farce. Which it is indeed. Regardless, when cultural absorption is a real and imminent threat to a society ... it's not too surprising to see such activity if you think about it. What else could they do?

Anyway, let's get back to Snow Leopard and QC. Get with me on Skype sometime and I'll cheerfully babble on but after all is said and done, there really isn't much more explanation than what I've given here.

cybero's picture
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LOL, but you got some service eventually though huh.

lee - you're a star.

Ha, Ha, Ha,

Chuckles.

Here's to you getting 10.6 PDQ, fella.

cybero's picture
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I have got the PPC Leo [F] Blower and am thinking along the lines of an FW partitioned / Leo | Time Machine External drive in the long run, but in no rush.

Snow Leopard est ici et qui est vraiment bon :-)

Perhaps I'm just too much given to seeing the positives in things.

[What, the house is burnt down, but we always wanted to completely replace that antique and the planning regulations were getting in the way of improving it •~]

gtoledo3's picture
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Well, let me say... I had the warm fuzzies for a few solid weeks. I can totally relate to where you are coming from.

Then, I came back to my old realization; new features are worthless and even a detriment, if they aren't stable or don't work completely.

What is the saying...? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

leegrosbauer's picture
Re: this friday

;-)

Being resourceful, albeit not so wise sometimes, I should have 10.6 by tomorrow. We'll see.

SteveElbows's picture
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If you look in the general section of finder preferences, there is an option for what drives to show on the desktop.

usefuldesign.au's picture
Re: this friday

One of the reasons the 'cool' shades-o-grey GUI was embraced for ProApps at Apple and Adobe was purportedly that the colour-neutral aesthetic sits back and lets your images (Photos or Video) take stage front and centre as it were.

Which is fine if you're in Aperture, Lightroom or even FCP but once your dealing with node based editing you essentially in a text based environment so black on white makes more sense.

I wonder how far the SN KinemeCore can hack the GUI??

vade's picture
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I went the other way around. I had VM'ed 10.5 server inside of 10.6. There is an issue however that complicates all of this, VM'ed OS X operating systems do not support Quartz Extreme, or in other words, dont have hardware accelerations, so things like Core Animation dont work, Open GL falls back to software and will be slow, QT renders slow, and Quartz Composer wont run.

Fun. So yea, im not longer doing that ;)

This is an issue with all VMs as far as I know. VMWare Fusion folks had a blog post about it some time back, which is due to Apple not letting folks write IOAccelerators or something. I dunno, but it sucks. You can have GPU assist in VM for other host OSes but not the native one. Amusing ;)

cybero's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

Quote:

If anew distro is installed as an upgrade I tend to boot, run Maintenance and then reboot again.

And this time I find it does not work

I have also found ARDAgent.app to not respond well to repair permissions, Keychain problems too, though they now seem to be well sorted.

Feathers and Fur shall be flying, Blood & Sand, I swear , I really do :-)

Probably already cost me a fine for not being able to do Web Filing with CompaniesHouse.

Very disconcerting indeed.

Shall be logging to Support discussion site and the bug reports are now definitely going to be flooding in from myself as soon as each and every one of them rears it's unwanted and rudely hewn head.

By the way , anyone found that the Snow.qtz example provokes an odd error when run and left to run and then restarted?

Please see attached snapshot.

Genuine and Authentic with no Photoshop retouching at all.

edit - just wondered if it was the original CI script, will it make a real difference CI wise if some syntax is a little hazy , even the slightest bit?

Original

kernel vec4 multiplyEffect(sampler image)
{
   vec4 pix = sample(image, samplerCoord(image));
   return (1 - pix);
}

Note the update to after return -

what a coding star •~ , eh? - might be totally irrelevant of course.

Revamped

kernel vec4 multiplyEffect(sampler image)
{
   vec4 pix = sample(image, samplerCoord(image));
   return (1.0 - pix);
}

and whilst I re-edited this post the fully fledged decimal 1.0 did nothing excellent, indeed , it simply repeated its seen before breakdown.

and even more worryingly there is this http://trailofbits.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/ardagent-exploit-macos-x-malware-and-snow-leopard-oh-my/AboutARDAgent.app, not very gentlemanly at all, slightly updated for Snow Leopard.

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SteveElbows's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

What Snow.qtz example? I dont see one anywhere, did it actually come with Snow Leopard or was it from a previous version of QC/OSX?

cybero's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

Good question SteveElbows, good question indeed.

I can't actually find it installed via Snow Leopard or downloaded from someone's examples elsewhere at all, whatsoever. No links from quartzcomposerdevlist neither, no trace of wherefore it has come from within a link in an email. Looks like it is meant to be coming straight from a DVD installer, but no evidence of that created May 29th 2009

Strange evidence indeed and simply put, I do not know, I honestly thought it was from the sample code section in the Mac Dev Centre.

gtoledo3's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

It was on pre-release website stuff, if you are a select or premium member.

cybero's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

gtoledo3 wrote:

It was on pre-release website stuff, if you are a select or premium member.

Thanks for the heads up fella.

I am fairly sure now that my gaining access to this code sample must have occurred on the same day, last Saturday, when I took receipt of and installed Snow Leopard.

I know I haven't been able to get a hold of it subsequently so can only assume that the Mac Dev site was being given an update, enabling me to stumble upon the item.

Any roads , the composition Snow.qtz does need some kind of means to stop it from running into blank empty space territory & then crashing upon stopping and restarting the composition in The Viewer window :-)

cybero's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

Thanks for the heads up , vade.

I guess I was making the lame •~ mistake of expecting the search facility on the Developer to point me in the right direction.

So not a Select nor a Premium Members only privilege [my mind is now at rest about this matter - so many thanks to you].

Now to see what can be done about the sample's tendency to go empty space fashion and provoke an error when restarted after going empty space :-)

gtoledo3's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

Well, it was, but they've been re-jiggering everything :) Which is a good thing!

There are some cool App examples that use OpenCL as well, and I've also been enjoying some of the more recent SL Core Animation examples... it has made me open my eyes a little bit more on Core Animation. It's pretty darn straightforward.

cybero's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

& pretty darn cool too, GT

cwright's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

I've not poked at CA on SL much at all yet, but I'm actually knee-deep in some CA-using stuff on Leopard stuff (sucking up all my time).

Despite a few annoying snags (QT+CA = sucks, QC+CA = sucks, CA+dynamic layer images = sorta sucks), it's actually shockingly powerful, and I sorta regret not jumping in sooner. I hope fancy animated interfaces don't bug too many users -- a future version of kinemeCore might do some fun looking stuff in the preferences panel ;) (among lots of other slightly more useful applications of the technology).

vade's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

Not a premier or select member either. Just search for quartz and filter down from there.

leegrosbauer's picture
Re: this friday - Snow Leopard bug

I would delight in seeing animated interfaces and the KinemeCore preference panel certainly seems like a rather unobtrusive location. Hard to imagine anyone being off-put with that.

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Does anyone know if the NI Units are still functional in QC4 and if so where they are to be found in the Patch Library? For me, they still show up the CI Filter Browser dashboard widget but I haven't discovered how to access them in QC4 yet.

Nevermind, found them. They are available in 32 bit mode only.