dlna server quartz composer

zackon1's picture

hi how do i make a dlna server quartz composer i want to show my quartz stuff on my tv

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cybero's picture
Re: dlna server quartz composer

Apple is not a member of the Digital Living Network Alliance, ergo, no native DNLA support for .qtzs to your TV.

Given that a VM Windows or Boot Camp MS doesn't support QC Framework, nil chance of that being a productive avenue neither.

Closest you'll get for QC works on a DNLA server is to run rendered movies of your QC work.

There are Digital Audio Access Protocol conformant servers [Apple's alternative to DNLA] like iTunes and even then, if you want to view your QC stuff in live rendering mode, you'll need to render the content as movies, SFAIK.

I guess you could create a bespoke DAAP server that encompasses and allows certain parts of the QC framework to work.

You could use iTunes to run relatively rudimentary .qtzs simply exported as movies rather than faithfully rendered offline.

Interesting question, provokes a lot of putative options that have nil current actuality.

I wonder if I'm missing something about this other than running unsafe plugins thanks to Kineme Core?

gtoledo3's picture
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If the main goal is just to use the tv for display, one can go out of the mini-dv jack (or whatever similar standard your computer has) to hdmi, s-video, or whatever else your tv takes by using a cable and whatever needed adapter. Not anything fancy.

Also, I'm unsure how it works, but I've heard that if you have an apple tv you can do wireless screen sharing between your computer and the apple tv. Take that with a grain of salt, and investigate.

cybero's picture
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Just wondering, GT, if you had any thoughts or suggestions further to those I posted earlier and those in your comment I'm replying to, regarding DNLA compliant servers being run on Mac kit , with unsafe mode enabled via Kineme Core , to be sent through to a TV?

I guess the idea of using an Apple TV is that it skips any need for using a DNLA based server mechanism?

What if someone needed or was wanting to exploit the DNLA API specifically though?

gtoledo3's picture
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I don't even know what a DNLA server is :-) I don't have any thoughts on it... I guess faced with tremendous amount of work/coding vs. "buy adapter"/hardware buying the adapter seems so expedient that I can't get my mind to wrap around other choices, unless it had to be that way for some other unforeseen reason :-) I tend to have more trust in solving things with hardware, in general.

gtoledo3's picture
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I looked it up; it looks like it's a total non-starter especially if the DMP/DMR/DMD has the media restrictions programmed into it's firmware for streaming, even if the playback was happening remote. There's not going to ever be any way to play those files locally, only on a Mac.

cybero's picture
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[a] DNLA server is ... a bit of software that serves up media to DNLA [Digital Living Network Alliance] compliant hardware. It's basically UPnP [Universal Plug and Play] as defined by Sony.

There are dozens around.

See DNLA

iTunes isn't DNLA compliant. It's Digital Audio Access Protocol conformant.

What really makes all the difference in the world regarding zackon1's question are the following points.

& only zackon1 can answer this and I'm not going to answer any further until I get some feedback on these points from zackon1.

Do you want to serve .qtz rendering live?

[ergo, has to be running with a QC Framework installed, thus on OS X]

Does it have to be a DNLA compliant server mechanism that you serve up the .qtz or even rendered movies or .qtzs wrapped as movies?

cybero's picture
Re: dlna server quartz composer

Your right regarding the dead end on hardware embedded DMP/DMR/DMD media restrictions.

Without a QC Framework live rendering .qtzs are also going to be a dead end on non OS X hardware.

Still waiting for zackon1's answers.

dust's picture
Re: dlna server quartz composer

the wiki has some comprehensive info on streaming qc live etc... choose one of those methods http, rtsp, rtmp, rtp, udp, etc... open that stream up in vlc and connect to dlna or upnp. i would think an hdmi cable would be your optimal preference. if you don't care about realtime control then i don't see where a stream to dlna would be an issue but i could be wrong as i don't have a blueray or playstation or what ever you have that uses dlna.

i have not tried this as my sony tv is an android jellybean or what ever there calling it now. in mountain lion you can send your monitor and audio to an apple tv, which works very well. previously you had to render your videos to the itunes format which was a pain but now you can send the whole monitor. i still have to vnc to my computer if i want to remote control but i bet pretty soon it will be possible to share and control your computer screen from an apple tv ?

zackon1's picture
Re: dlna server quartz composer

hi sorry for late reply i have a samsung tv in my living room and i have my laptop and all my dj and visuals stuff in my playroom

i use a dlan server to live stream movies and music from my laptop to my tv so i want to do a live render to the tv using quartz

dust's picture
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opps forgot to post the streaming qc wiki link. sorry about that. so quicktime and darwin broadcast streaming does work with quartz composer as i have tested it via rtp. vlc can open a rtp and connect dlna somehow ? not sure as i don't have dlna..

http://kineme.net/wiki/StreamingQuartzComposer

cybero's picture
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One thing is for sure, there won't be any live rendering with QC interactivity at the non OS X based DLNA end of affairs.

The following seems like it ought to be true - Live rendering of animations, with interactivity at the live rendering start point could be achieved using Syphon or QT or QC screen being sent. Unsafe mode with Kineme Core could also be enabled with the Syphon or QT or QC screen. Thus compositions with 3rd party plugins should also be good to render live via Syphon or QT or QC screen.

Live renders being streamed without recipient client interactivity.

That's what is possible from OS X to a DLNA client via a DLNA server.

Here's a link to a whole range of DNLA servers, some of which are OS X compatible and some of those OS X compatible servers are also Open Source DNLA Server Selection.