how to use ableton as a midi controler

vjeik's picture

Hi i am trying to control some QC parameters using nobs and faders on ableton. I did on my midi using the midi control receiver patch and using the observe feature. How can i get to QC to observe the nobs and faders on ableton? Mostly because i want to be able to both control and record positions on the nobs and faders. I want to use ableton like a motorized faders

Some help! thanks in advance

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dust's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

press midi learn in ableton turn knob on keyboard. Add midi patch in qc press learn and turn the same knob. Both qc and ableton should be receiving the same midi data at this point. you can also use osc and hook into lives python scripts to get data out of ableton if you don't have a keyboard. I would experiment with midi send receive and thru options if you do have a keyboard.

vjeik's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

Thanks for the answer, but in this case i would control both using the midi controler. What I want o achieve is a way to control QC using ableton. This way i can save faders positions like a motorized fader. For example. If i am controling speed, size and color using ableton faders, i could save some specific combinations. i could change between presets.

I was looking on the net and i found some talks about rewire so ableton could control cue base... but could not found any thing like that for quartz...

Scratchpole's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

itsthejayj's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

Started explain a long processes of using OSC for this, but remembered that mbira posted a example of Ableton and MIDI feedback a while ago, this would be a great start for you.

http://kineme.net/composition/mbira/SimpleCompositionfortriggeringvideos...

The key here is to look into how to set up a IAC driver to send the midi signal back into QC

Hope this helps

vjeik's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

in the example he is sending midi notes...i am trying to send the faders and nobs information... I already got to work with a korg nano kontrol. and it works like i want. But my problem is some of my compositions have more then 6 controls with faders, and i want to have some presets that i can change during the perfomance, like a motorized fader.

I try the Iac driver but it send only midi notes i could not get to send fader and nobs information.

Forgive my ignorance i am very new at all this... what osc stand for?

thanks for the help people

dust's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

do you have max 4 live ? that would be the easiest way. here is an example of how to communicate with max and qc via osc.

http://kineme.net/forum/Discussion/General/OSCfromMaxMsp#comment-20665

all you would have to do is add this to the basic learning example of midi IO for max in live and assign it to a channel of you choice. basically you would need to re pack the osc as midi out to control vol fader in live then take the midi in and re pack that to osc and send to qc.

if you want to use qc to sure your values. think of it as qc controlling live not live controlling qc if that helps.

dust's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

here is a simple osculator set up.

the qc patch sends osc to osculator -> midi cc assigned to live fader. the osculator patch reroutes the midi back to o/c and into qc.

this way you have bi-directional communication. move the left circle and fader in live moves. move the fader in live and the right circle in qc moves.

this should get you started.

there are three files. qc patch - osculator patch and live patch. they all need to be open and running to work ;)

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vjeik's picture
Re: how to use ableton as a midi controler

hey dust thanks a lot im gonna test today